Timing chain broke on start up. Need advice.

Discussion in 'Engine/Drivetrain' started by Christopher Sutton, Dec 18, 2016.

  1. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    Just rebuilt an 87 22r engine. .20 over pistons, .10 over bearings, new timing chain set, timing cover, water pump, oil pump, brand new assembled head, LCE cam adjuster, all that jazz. 115 miles after the rebuild (timing is dead on btw) I go to adjust my valves again because they were ticking too loose. (someone told me factory specs while hot). I adjusted the valves cold and checked everything out. I put everything back together, turn the truck over, and I hear a loud metallic pop and snap. The mech fuel pump arm broke AND my damn timing chain broke!! I need to know would you think my valves are damaged? Finances are pretty low and I can barely afford a 2nd new chain.
     
    Justin Danger likes this.
  2. 22R88

    22R88 Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2010
    Messages:
    335
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    South Louisiana
    Truck:
    1988 Reg Cab Deluxe RN50
    Bottom gear for chain installed facing wrong direction
     
  3. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    I checked that upon assembly. I also have a picture of my timing on previous post.
     
  4. salabim

    salabim Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    2
    if it ran well for 115 miles. Now wont after a valve adjustment you have the answer. The work last done on the engine is the problem.
    I would say its time to pull the head again. Will the cam turn through two revolutions with the chain off? How about the crank?
     
  5. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    I haven't tried because I didn't want to purposely damage my valves trying to turn it. I wonder if the chain had too much slack on the driver side when aligning TDC. Does that sound stupid?
     
  6. salabim

    salabim Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    2
    Chris,

    Something has to have jammed the cam to break that timing chain. Whether its slack valve timing or something else. I have no idea what the tensile strength of the chain would be. I could guess and say 3000 lbs.
    Pulling the head is gonna tell ya right away if its a valve that has introduced itself to the top of a piston. No matter what the cause it needs to come off.
     
  7. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    Okie dokie. Like I mentioned earlier, the fuel pump arm is missing as well. That might have gotten jammed in there.
     
  8. first80toyota

    first80toyota Addict

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2012
    Messages:
    994
    Likes Received:
    18
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    Truck:
    '77 Hilux
    Seeing as the starter engages the flywheel which attaches to the crank, in order to snap the chain it has to be something on the upper side. Could be the tensioner some how jammed the chain, or cam, or the fuel pump rod or any combo of things.

    Any way you go, start digging and you will find it! :waytogo:
     
  9. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    I guess I will tear it all apart after Christmas. Too much going on and all I can think about it this truck.
     
  10. tacobo670

    tacobo670 Addict

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    535
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Truck:
    94 Base
    i would suspect the valves would bend/brake before the chain would snap. then again, idk what kind of cheap-o chinese taiwan chain u got.
    is it possible the ACG is loose when u was adjusting the valves?
    did u notice the fuel pump arm broke BEFORE or AFTER the chain snap? maybe the arm had broke and then managed to wedge itself into the chain not allowing it to turn and therefore breaking it?

    regardless, best bet would be to pull the head and timing set n see how bad the damage is. sucks bro
     
  11. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    Sorry for the late reply. From buying a house, starting a new job, and having a baby on the way, the truck has been on the back burner. The fuel pump arm was still intact before this incident. I'll begin tearing it down some this weekend.
     
  12. Christopher Sutton

    Christopher Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Rocky Mount, NC
    Truck:
    85 Pickup 2wd
    Good news. I replaced the timing chain. It runs perfect!
     

Share This Page