Rear End Questions.

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  1. udream69

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    Since I bought my 92 toyota, ive noticed something even before bagging it. The rear end likes to squeal alot. One side is trying to pull harder than the other. So my question is, the gears are more than likely welded right? It only does it at certain speeds like when Im pulling out in first gear, but it doesnt do it at faster speeds.

    So if this is the case, what would be the best gear to run in a bagged mini thats going to be drove on country roads and interstates.
     
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    Are we talking tire squeal? One wheel peel? If so, the spider gears are not welded.

    You have three options, weld them, slightly bad idea for any road use. While there are those that will swear up and down that it is "great", I've done it, and will recommend against it for a daily driver. Also, you will probably end up in a ditch at least once each winter.

    You could install some form of limited slip.

    Or the cheapest option, you could learn to drive around the wheel spin.
     
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    yeah like a wheel squeal only one wheel and its on the pass side if i remember right. Only reason i thought they had already been done is because one of my buddies yota thats body dropped, it has a completely stock rear end and it doesn't do the same. Then another buddy of mine has built his fair share of yotas and none of them done what mines doing. Then my neighbor with a stock yota not lowered or anything, just a beat, his never done what mines done.

    Im just stumped in the part because ive known of people welding the spider gears to get the same thing mines doing.
     
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    Its comments above this one that will make this forum into the new S10Forum.

    Just so you know. Ive never driven a 5 speed in my life. I took a year to fix everything that was wrong with this truck and bagged it myself. Ive spent the last few months learning how to drive it. So like any other normal person learning how to drive im going to take it easy.
     
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    to be honest your description of the problem is a little vauge. Maybe make a video of it. Sounds like you are doing a one tire fire. This is normal if your friends have better wider tires then you. Have you had one of them drive your truck and see if it happens to them?

    As for the s10 comment, this forum is pretty self regulated, if people start getting out of control someone steps up and deals with it. On the other hand we do like dirty jokes, nudity, and ripping on each other here to a bit, so try not to let it bother you..
     
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    Yes, if the spider gears were welded, you would not get a one tire burnout. Both wheels would receive the same amount of power regardless of traction.

    These engine that we have are not exactly powerhouses, and if yours is not turbo, then you have a traction issue. With an open diff, the power will go to the wheel with the least traction. This could be because of rocks or dirt, ice or snow, or wet pavement. It could also just be that your wheel/tire combo doesn't get much grip.
    Any open diff in an even traction situation will almost always break traction on the passenger side first. That is only due to physics.
    My pickup will not ever break the tires loose on anything other than loose gravel or sand, there is simply not enough power to overcome the traction of my 265/35-18's.

    And some chiding is and should be expected, I was kind of thinking the same thing, but I said it in a nicer way.
     
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    So, im digging this back up to update this topic. This is a case where the rear end was welded up. It finally started to brake down last weekend. The owner before me done this, and I still haven't figured out why you would welded the gears in a 4 cyl 2wd? There's nothing to gain right?

    I went to a local cruise last weekend. I started on my way back home, and i noticed the truck was catching and throwing me to the right. I barely made it back home. Got a complete rear end off one of my buddies for 60 bucks (score!).

    Heres the damage of the old stump. One of the welds on the spiders was breaking and was catching every so often.

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    whoever did it did not do it very well........ the main reason someone would do this is to gain a cheap yet effective means to have traction out of both tires out back.

    i welded mine since i knew i was gonna build up the motor and didnt wanna necessarily dump another 700 bucks in a locker or posi.... however, i had extra bracing done to ensure something like what you are experiencing did not happen to me. truck has had a welded diff for almost 4 years now and from what ive heard from the new owner, its still holding up just fine.

    edit: btw.... so long as there is no damage from any weld debris in the gears, you can probably still salvage that third, weld it up and brace it correctly and use it, or sell it off to someone that wants a locked third.
     

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