I know this isn't a honda forum but had a question?

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  1. josealex1636

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    Like I said this isn't a honda forum but had a question about my moms 97 honda accord. Today I drained and filled her automatic transmission fluid with the honda atf at the dealer. The atf that was in the honda was pretty brown like engine oil. What got me was that I went to test drive it and it would shift late and at one point stopped driving and the engine would rev up like if I had it in neutral that only gear that worked was reverse luckily I was close by my house so drove it in reverse all the way home any ideas or any other honda owners besides their minis?
     
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    did you drain the whole thing?
    How much did you fill up?
    check your fluid level.




    This is why I swapped to a manual on my Toyota, too.
     
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    I did a drain and refill so I got most of the fluid out. And I turned the car on a went through the gears and turned it off and just did a quick check and it was just a lil over the full mark and that is when I went to test drive it. The transmission was good before I changed the oil. The car has about 430,xxx with rebuilt head since timing belt broke a tooth and pistons hit valves but going back to the topic what I was thinking maybe since the fluid was dirty all the debris was holding the trans together.
     
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    Did you fill the transmission while the car was running? If the car was off it might be over filled, maybe there is still dirty stuff floating around in trans?
     
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    I filled it while the vehicke was off and I read that on the accords idk about other vehicle like I need to change the fluid like 3x to get all the bad stuff out.
     
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    I've heard of this with American cars before. You change the trans fluid and the trans goes out. It has something to do with the detergents in the fluid and the clutch disks but I never understood it. Some places will recommend NOT changing the trans fluid if it has been a long time since it was flushed. (lot of miles). I always thought it was BS, but some people swear by it.
    Hope this isn't the case with yours.
     
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    trans fluid level MUST be checked with engine running. -it sounds like u didnt put enuf, maybe damaged trans when u drove it low on fluid
     
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    Incorrect. Hondas acura with engine OFF. No sweat there weird. I would never rec. A trans flush over 250-300k. They just dont do well like u just saw. Torque converter probably went bad.. sorry to say swap it to manuel or new automatic... fyi manuel swap= no fun
     
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    It is common in old transmissions that have never had a fluid flush to not change the fluid no matter how burnt or brown it is the old fluid contains clutch material that build up over time and act like clutch material to help the worn clutch packs catch and create movment when u changed to new fluid u loose all that material . And new ATF is to slippery and washes of the the built up material on the clutches end result is a slipping or a trans that won't move or shift I owned a 97 Acura cl with the same f23 and auto trans there was a recall on that auto trans . I sold mine because the tranny failed and reverse only works because its has the highest pump pressure than any other gear
     
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    I believe Honda's like Honda ATF only, btw.
     
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    Thanx for the input guys and yes on hondas and acuras check the trans fluid with engine off and we concluded that the trans was done so my dads friend has a shop and we took it to one of his friends to rebuild the trans but gotta give the trans props for lasting this long without problems until now (430,xxx miles).
     
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    Yea big props. Dont know if uve got and f22a or f22b in that thing but in my 91 coupe I went through an auto every 30k or so. Haha finally all manuel swapped up
     
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    No in honda trans axle you have to check it when it is off and filling
    as for you issue sounds likes you have some valve body issue from varinch clogging up thing since honda do not run a filter there sinoids get gummed up

    it is easy fix if they still work put them in gas and scrub them or let them sit in install good to go and if you have 12 bat click them back and forth when they are in gas
     
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    Yea that's a lotta miles for that auto specially with the recall notice on them 430k I'd say u got your money out of it
     

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