i had some springs that were already chopped from my parts truck. with my current rims they fit like this and didnt rub much, with seemingly good suspension travel. was in total about a 3in drop stock springs was about 3 coils i also removed the lower bump stop striker bracket thingy. have about a 1in of clearance from the control arm to the bump stop, plan on cutting the bump stop in half to get 2in more of travel. note: one of the bolts for this thing holds the ball joint on. a exhaust stud nut is perfect for the bolts that come out.