2jz motor swap???

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  1. Toyo Trucker

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    I've finally saved up enough cash to attempt this project.

    I want to put a 2jz motor into my truck. Can anyone point me in the right direction???????:shrug:

    I'll begin this project with a shopping list. Get everything I need first, then take it to a shop for install. Too lazy to try doing this myself.

    1st...... I'll need a motor.
    Craigslist: 2jz motor w/ 30k miles & Manual tranny & ECU.

    2nd..... Motor mounts??

    3rd...... New rear end???

    4th...... ?????
     
  2. joeynational

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    if your taking it to the shop,what do you need direction for:looney: hahaha I would look for a front clip and just drop it off with the truck at your shop
     
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    bicperformance.com <<<< motor mount kit yo!

    rear end, what do you have? 7.5" or 8"?

    use Supra LSD or something.

    tires wide enough?
     
  4. Toyo Trucker

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    I have a stock rear end right now. I need to pick up a R154 tranny. I believe that is the Supra tranny.

    I have no idea what rear end I'll need or what type of clutch I'll need.

    Can anyone help?

    Maybe picking up a 2jz this week. $1200 cash no tranny w/ 30,000 miles on the motor. It should have everything else on it.

    Back to the clutch question? Do I need to get a clutch for a supra or the truck?:shrug:

    Tires. I need to downgrade my wheels to 17"s. I'll probably run a 10" rear tire. Something like 275mm. This should be wide enough for traction.

    I'm keeping the motor stock. This will be my daily driver.
     
  5. Toyo Trucker

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    Does anyone know where I can get a tranny mount?
     
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    Scratch that BIC performance sells a whole motor/tranny mount kit.

    Back to the rearend question. Do I need a new rear end? What should I be looking for?
     
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    If you find a driveshaft you should be able to swap flanges and keep your stock rear end.
    I dunno about rear ends, spline counts and all of that which is stronger, but you could swap flanges.
    Weld the rear end if you cant find a LSD
     
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    if you really end up puttin a 2jz in you will be my new hero anyway i would get a clutch for that motor and the rearend might be able to hold up to the power or you could try and find a 1st gen supra rear but then you would have to put new mounts on it and possiable narrow it they where a 4link axle but the plus side is they are a disk brake setup and i belive they have an lsd in them
     
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    Damn!!! I'm already looking at $5,000 easy on this project.


    But for a 320 hp stock motor.... It's worth it.
     
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    Before I forget. 77yoter, You gay!!!!!!!:ROFL:
     
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    funny guy
     
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    yeah, isnt he charming? always makes useless posts and then asks for help. lol.

    but, your strongest route for a rear end would be to find a 2wd 8" rear end of the same year, or older if you wanna run wider wheels and tuck, then put a 3rd gen supra lsd in. 2nds will work as well. just the center section. and why did you skip the idea of a turbo 7M? its alot easier and although the stock numbers are lower, you could use the savings to build it and have a better overall setup.
     
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    The only downside to a 7M ove the 2JZ is that there are not mount kits out for the 7m swap that i know of. You need to relocate your exisiting truck mounts back a couple of inches.
     
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    access to a welder and a few friends that are mechanically orientated? then you're good! hahaha
     
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    From everything I've read and seen done, you just elongate the holes on the 5m supra mounts. M block in an r series frame since they were based on the 22r celicas. Most the time it leaves the tranny where it was, so no driveline changes are made.
     
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    yup, i was told to get M mounts, put the left on the right and the right on the left, then place JZ mounts on them? or go from the M mounts since supras went from M's to JZ
     
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    that im not sure about. but i have heard many times that 5M mounts will work. 5M and 7M blocks are very similar, stroke is the biggest difference. so the mounts will fit either. but the frame side of the 5M mount is going to a 22R style crossmember, because toyota didnt see it needed to be changed if they can make the difference up in the motor mount. and they also didnt move the engine back because there wasnt any benefit, since it can only go so far.

    but yes, 7Ms are a fairly simple swap. other than wiring, its just a matter of routing the radiator hoses in a short amount of space, and running electric fans (usually pusher fans in front of the radiator). most ive seen swap to a smaller brake booster from an 81ish truck, it has a smaller diameter booster. so the intake clears. and the exhaust routes down the passenger side, but there is room between the block and bellhousing to cross it over and into the system/routing you may already have. thats depending what year and 2wd/4wd setup it is though. 78 and older trucks have the steering parts behind the crossmember, so its alot tighter but might still fit. im still tossing around doing an NA 7M block with a nicely done up 5M head. its 12 valves, but the computer system is supposedly alot easier to wire in, and there are less small things to the system.

    look around on the 4wd websites, and supra websites. most have sections dedicated to non stock motor swaps like this. keep reading. then decide if you need the extra cost and hassle to have the 2JZ vs the 7M
     
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    when i bought my 2jz the numbers i dug up were roughly

    n/a -230hp
    turbo-280hp

    and the 7m turbo was rated stock around 230.

    wouldn't having the advantage of no turbo lag on the n/a 2jz make for a better starting point, assuming your running a stock motor?
     
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    ive always read the 7M-GE as about 190-200 depending on year, the 7M-GTE as 210-220, tje 2JZ-GE as 230ish, and the 2JZ-GTE is about 320. he mentioned using the turbo version i believe. well, he mentioned the stock turbo rating. and yeah, the the n/a may have no lag to suffer from but i havent compared the entire dyno chart of the turbo 7M and the na 2JZ in a long long time, so im not sure which is a better starting point. probably the 7M because by uping the boost and some minor changes, it can put down a healthy amount more. parts and aftermarket are plentiful. and they dont bring in that rediculous pricetag of 2JZ parts.
     
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    man i got my 2jz for $78.... :D
     

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