Looking into a cam

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  1. yota89

    yota89 Enthusiast

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    Yo wassup guys I'm looking into getting a cam but there's
    so many makers of cam shafts...I'm looking at a mild cam
    And sorry to say but I don't wana go LC....I'm looking at building
    My motor with out LC parts....so can anyone point me on witch
    Maker to go with looking at a 280 just mild only thanks
     
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    It's really hard to say. Most shops won't give you the exact specs on the cams to be able to compare them like LC posts right on their site. I kinda understand if your grinds are "secret", but as a consumer/engine builder, I want to know exactly what I'm getting before I try it out.

    I've called and talked to D.O.A., LC, Enginebuilder, and Putney's, the only shop that would answer my questions directly was LC.

    Most guys will say to use Enginebuilder's torquer cam, or D.O.A.'s 280, but what are they really?

    I'm spending my money at LCengineering because they are completely open about it, and their prices aren't much higher than any of the others (except enginebuilder).
    The other guys were nice, just worried that I was going to give up their "secret" cam grinds.

    Read up on cam design if you haven't already, there's way more to it for your specific build.
     
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    After talking tinted at engbldr, I went with his rv head and 270 cam. Super nice guy, just tell him what you are doing with the truck.
     
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    I went with engine builders Super Stock head and stainless steel valves. Made a big difference. Flows better than stock. I have the 261c cam with over 150k miles on it. Seems to work with the auto trans and the 2.125 exhaust. Flowmaster 50. Cat back only.
     
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    Go with the Web 280.With that 32/36 it's going to give you a slight rock.I think Racers Edge should have them.You might also think about ordering some dual valve springs.I don't think the 280 will need them but it is a necessary upgrade if you want to go any bigger.
     
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    What's the HP gain from doing a cam? Like the 280?
     
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    I have a cam for sale in the fs section. It requires upgraded valve springs. PM me if interesed.
     
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    @ lilred93 Each gear will be different.The 280 allows you to get more out of your 1st 2nd and 3rd gears and levels off on your 4th and 5th.Your rear end ratio also makes a big difference.If you match the 280 with a 4:11 rear you will notice a bit of difference from a stock rear end.But with a 280 and a stock rear the improvement is noticeable but mild.Mainly for lower to mid range performance.
     
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    That's mainly just about what I need. My top end feels fine it's the bottom that feels doggy.
     
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    :waytogo:
    pay attention to the "lobe center"
    the smaller the number, the lower it is in the power band.
    example :104 deg. lobe center -rpm power band 2500-5500
    108 deg. lobe center -rpm power band 3500-7000
    also, the bigger the duration, the more "lope" (engine lope at idle) u will have.
    a 260 cam vs a 280 -the 280 will lope harder, sound beefier than the 260. would require more fine tuning of air/fuel to idle correctly.
    NOTE--- just because u read 260 or 280 or 292, u must pay attention to the "advertised duration". this is the real world number. ive seen some 260 cams advertised at 230, and 280 cams advertised at 235 -so there is not much difference there.

    correct me if im wrong.

    u must match the cam with what the intended use of the vehicle will be.

    @Malessohomegrown... chagi esti one time chelu!!! lol jk jk
     
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    280 Comp cam is my mild choice...



    @chamorro boys:: Basta di' ma'lanya hamyu na tres!! Ti un nesita cam umbre! Esta maolek I yo'mu stock cam. Ma'lekna un na'i pickup mu "Turbo" yon li'ie mas chadek!! :eek:
     
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    I rest my case.
     
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    Turbo!!!!Hafa este na turbo?Is that a new technologies?J/k chelu.One day minus today.
     
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    parakayu ni turbo. eyi nebu na cartoon? need to sssuper tsartsssit chelu. like mines, but im using only leaf blower for now sa da budget lai

    @ litneon, maybe try look into an RV cam. they usually made for better low end and have good cruising/top end. and u wont have to tweek the tuning as much
     
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    The problem with the RV cam is the amount of overlap. Not good for a boosted setup. Great for scavenging on an NA though.
     
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    .... sorry. didnt know he was gonna put it under boost.
     
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    I don't think the OP was going to boost his, but I thought you were recommending it for me. My bad.

    Not sure what you Chamorro fellas were talking about. ;)
     
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    lol I see. Yes, for sure, u don't want large overlap when going forced induction. I would assume u need shorter duration, large lift. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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