Punish-it 86 yot

Discussion in '1976-1983 Build-Up/Project Threads' started by 2thpic, Aug 27, 2012.

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    rain sucks when it messes up your work on truck time.
     
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    You do nice work my friend.
     
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    woohoo a gas tank. it might look old but it is still new, kinda. it has been stored on a shelf or in a corner for 2 or 3 yrs.
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    ok, got the tan in and tried to start but no go. it turns over and has spark and fuel.
    hummmm where do these wires go???
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    also these is a 4 wire connecting under the fuse block as well i just forgot to get a pic of it. You can kinda see it a little in the 2nd pic
     
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    anybody got any ideas on what else to look for to see why it wont start?
     
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    ok i did compression test on the 22r motor yesterday and got very little. i have came to the realization the the timing is off and i need to redo the position on the timing chain to gears.
    is there a way to do this with out taking the whole motor back apart?
     
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    ok well i was able to take the top spk. off and turn it to the correct timing alignment.
    then put it all back together and woo hoo, it's alive.
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    still got some tuning up and such but hell ya. also i think i need to redo my exhaust, it way way to loud. what can i expect from an exhaust system that is only 19" long and that's with an echo tip
     
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    ok, i got a new and very odd question, i really need some input on this.
    truck is running but runs like crap. it's only running on 2 cyl. cuz the intake valves on 1 and 2 are to tight. i loosened the rockers as far as possible but still the rockers are tight. i pulled the rocker assy. and noticed that in order for the rockers to have any play the adjusting screw has to be turned out all the way on on each one of the valves on the intake side. so it makes me think that the valves are to long. i didnt put the valves in the shop that i had rebuild the the head did. but as fare as i know he reused the old valves but we had to get a different head cuz the old one was to fare gone to rebuild. both heads are the pare shaped exhaust port style. so my questing is, Does any one know what the height from top of valve contact to bottom of spring is? i think that if i can get that dimension then i can determined that the wrong valves where put in or something. has anyone came across this type of problem as well? Are there different valves for different year models that have the pare shaped exhaust port heads?
     
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    I think intake valves are different from 1979 to 80 then 81to 83 then 84 and on there the same I'd order a new set of valves for your year head the demension height of a installed intake valve is 40.5mm or 1.5inches installed with retainer
     
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    ok so you are saying that 1.5 / 40.5mm is from the stem tip to the face of the head?
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    Or from valve spring seat to face of head?
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    The pics are not from 22r, just for ref. only.
     
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    Yea you got it right just like that pic with the ruler .so you would stick it down in there and measure to the retainer washer I kinda suspect if the machine shop had some valves laying around they may have stuck them in there without considering there installed high did you reuse your rocker arm assembly from the old head ? There's one thing you can check after you get your installed height measurement . Then check how much of the top of the valve pokes up past the retainer disk ...

    If you remove your valve spring and check its free height it should be 1984 and older 45.8mm or 1.8 inches 1985 and later it should be 48.5 mm or 1.9 inches < if you do this do not let your valve slide down into the pistons
     
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    humm on the rocker arm assembly??? don't know, but i will ask tomorrow. I called the owner from the shop about an hour ago and he is coming to the house on a Sunday to take a look at the motor to see what's wrong. So I'll ask him if they used the one from the prev. head or the one that was org. with the 2nd head. I'll print what u said off so we can check the height as well. Dude i think you a lot for the info.
     
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    No prob curious to the answer haven't herd this type of situation come up before I'm kinda thinking some how you got a long set of valves somehow or some kind of binding is going on
     
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    Not to come off rude, but you need to redo the rear sup. the bar that you put behind the axle dose nothing. That bar is the same as the axle that 3 inch in front of it. If you don't want to run a an hard bar, you need to run it from the axles mounting point on the bar to the frame mounting point on the other bar, but even that still wakes side to side.
    I just don't want to see you get hurt or hurt some one.
     
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    I would definitely revisit that setup too. There is a lot more play in those bushings and the U bolts than you'd think. I'm not against the two link at all, but normally you'd see them hard bolted to welded on brackets on the axle end with bushings on the frame end.

    I just don't think the U bolts will cut it long term. A panhard bar won't work well with the U bolts either, both ways will eventually stretch them out leading to more play and possible failure. To keep them, the best solution would be half of an X between the front of one link and the rear of the other, but that would likely be in the way of the driveshaft.
     
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    Well the owner of the shop came out yesterday and he has never seen or had this happen.
    So we pulled the head and he took it to the shop to find out what is going on with it. I hope to know something soon.
     
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    wow this is killn' me waiting to find out what's wrong with my head. i so hope that it is just wrong valves. if the head had been seated to many times prev. then that will mean new seats and such.
    Quick question tho, do yall think that i can reuse the new head gasket or do i need to buy another new one?
     
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    I'm with litneon and thelolux on this one. It needs to get done before someone gets hurt!
     
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    also i reworked the exhaust pipe. took a look to see what i would have to do for it to go thru the frame and didn't like the outcome. so i cut the echo tip off and put a dogleg in it to go past the link bar brackets and then cut a log angle to give it a wicked look.
    pic was taken before it was all welded up.
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    what it looked like before.
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