help to lower my toy

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  1. joekiyu

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    what are all the parts that i would need to get to lower my yota picup? i know i need top get a lowering kit... but it only comes with, lowering Blocks/U-Bolts, Aluminum, 3 in. Drop. that can not be all, is it?
     
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    Use the search section man. Plus you can lower your truck by getting some 3in blocks from a auto parts store for the back and also pull the middle leaf. For the front just crank the torsions and do a B/J flip . Cost you about 30 to 40 dollars to get your truck to set at about a 4/4 drop. But if you want to keep your ride quality then you will need drop leafs and blocks in back and drop spindals and b/j flip in front but thats goning to cost you a couple 100 of dollars. Reseach tool about is your friend man.
     
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    if you have the money then for the front get drop spindels, they will put you back like 250, and for the back get low leaf springs, they will put you back about 300. so if you have the money go that way if not auto zone is the place for you
     
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    Both of the above are correct.

    Search function can be ur BFF
     
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    How low do you wanna go? :D
     
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    im thinkin 3 inc. tahnks to yall i know what items i need. now the question is where to get it done!? is it a basic job that i would be able to do with a few friends and basic tools?
     
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    The drop blocks in the rear i did completely by myself with no prior knowledge of anything automotive. I dug into with a ratchet set and a breaker bar. I did 4 inch blocks on the back but i would suggest 3 inch blocks with the middle leaf pulled. My clearance from the bottom of my leafs to the ground is pretty low and no where will change my oil. Which lead to me changing my own oil for the first time.
    To do a ball joint flip it was simple. I used basic ratchet set with a breaker bar. I added 3 washer on each bolt to get the max drop. I would suggest at least 1 because there is a stamped print on the under side and the ball joint will not fit flush if you do not have any spacers.
    To install the drop spindle it will take a little more tools and work. You will need a ball joint tool and some tin snips to trim the dust cover. I would also suggest a torque wrench and some bearing grease.
    Here is my truck with 4 inch drop blocks, 2 inch drop spindles, and a ball joint flip:

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    Here is why i suggest 3 inch blocks with the middle leaf pulled:

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    That is the bottom of my leafs viewed from the inside of my rim. It was a 1/16 of an inch clearance.
     
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    Dude crank the torsions a bit for another 2"

    I either needa get drop spindles or an alignment then more drop. I miss the old stance my truck had
     
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    if he wants nice quality drop for a good price...

    3" arms/ spindles, and 3" drop leafs in the rear.

    if he wants a cheap drop...

    he can just do what I did lol
     
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    So I went on line to summitracing.com and found a lowering kit that includes, DJM suspension twin tube shocks (gas) for front and rear, DJM suspension lowered control arms and DJM suspension lowering blocks kits. I think that this is all I would need…. right? I ask because I simply don’t know and I don’t see anything about arms/spindles and or leafs springs. I would like to know if it will get the job done in a better way or worst.
     
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    There are 2" drop spindles which are ideal cuz u can run em on a static drop or with bags i go that route.

    3" drop control arms are for static use only from what i know.

    2-3" drop leafs are probably the best option or the rear if u got the $$

    Dont get DJM or belltech blocks. Theyre The same sh!t as wat u would find at pepboys or autozone. If u want blocks hit up Beefed Taco.

    U can do the drop spindles and a ball joint flip and get about 3" in the front then crank the torsion bars and probably get anoher 2-3" of drop.

    The most inexpensive for the rear would be 3" blocks and pull the middle leaf. That will get u around 4-5" of drop

    If u wana spend the least amount possibly and ruin ur spine just do this^^ and crank ur torsion bars and do the BJ flip
     
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    ^ I agree with Jetas. The drop spindles and ball joint flip keep your shocks at the same ride height so it is a decent ride. If you use 4 inch blocks you get the same ride quality out of it too. I would still suggest 3 inch blocks pull the middle leaf, do a ball joint flip and crank the torsion. The drop could easily be down if a few hours.

    Here is some products you can look into:

    STILLEN : Belltech Leaf Springs

    These are belltech blocks would suggest generic ones to save money.
    STILLEN : Belltech Lowering Blocks

    The drop spindles make it so you have to trim your dust cover and get your alignment done. It put my alignment about 3 inches out on each wheel
    STILLEN : Belltech Drop Spindles
     
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    Remember, the bigger the block ul end up getn more axle wrap.
     
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    Go with the 3 inch blocks unless you can afford drop springs.
     
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    money is not that big of an issue... but if a ball joint flip and drop blocks would give me the same end results as the drop kit would then ill rather save me some money! I want a smooth and long lasting drop on my truck at the same time all i want is 3 inches 4-5 might be a little too much for me. If I do a 3 inch drop and pull one leaf spring out how low will that go? And a ball joint flip will drop me how many inches... is there a way to do it that would only drop it 3 inches?
     
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    If u want good ride then go with drop spindles up front. Theyl maintain the full suspension travel. Do a bj flip along wit the spindles and that will be about 3". the rear jus do drop blocks and theres ur 3/3 drop. The ride does seem to change a bit after blocks but not horrible
     
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    i think i got it!? so a 2" drop spindles pluse a ball joint flip will give me a 3 inch in the front?
     
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    BJ, Torsions, trimmed front bumpstops, halfass mini c notch, removed rear bump stops, 3" blocks, removed mid leaf, 215/65/16's in the rear (tires are an inch taller than stock), and slight shorter than stock in the front.

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    just a reference.
     
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    I have 4wd fenders up front and the camber up front is uncorrected. If you have similar wheels in a similar setup, but a bit less offset, the wheels would be more flush to the fenders.

    I don't really rub in the rear unless i have a full load (the extra tall rear tires just tap teh top of the wheel wells. stock tire height doesn't. in the front, the smaller tires don't rub as much. I did my best to bang out the inner wheel wells. nothing wrong with that. But keep in mind I did about a ~6" drop.
    I plan to go even lower. but driving up the driveway is already a big enough challenge.

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